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Menus4All Vice president of Marketing, Stephany Jones, returns to the blind Abilities studio to announce the launch of their new app, Menus4All.

The largest and most accessible menu for the Blind and Visually Impaired. With over 750,000 unique menus from United States and Canada, this well organized and accessible app is the cat’s meow. From the voiceover accessibility, headings, near me list population and ease of use, this is the best thing since slice bread. And yes, you can search for bread or any other menu item or zip code or many other options that will suit your needs.
Co-hosting with Jeff Thompson in the studio is Serena Olsen, aka @BlindBroad from the Facebook Live show, The Blind Grind. Stephany, Serena and Jeff share some experiences, laughs and a lot of information about the development, the usability and the multiple ways a user can buy, subscribe and utilize the Menus4All App.
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Menus4All App is Now in the App Store! Stephany Jones Returns to Give Us All the Details and More
Stephanie:
We have released our new iOS app Menus4All, so that’s m-e-n-u-s, the number four, a-l-l in the app store, and it now offers 500,000 accessible restaurant menus across the United States, plus an additional 250,000 in Canada.
Serena:
Going through the menu, like just boom, boom, boom, boom.
Jeff:
Some people, like when I have someone read the menu to me, they wanna read every “and it comes with lettuce, tomato, a toothpick and a mint.
Stephanie:
“Oh, Stephanie, this is what I wanna order. No, I’m gonna order this.” And just to see her delight. That’s what it’s about. Watching someone have that moment, that aha moment about a menu. Like I said, it sounds so small, but for us who experience it, this is a big deal.
Jeff:
Welcome to Blind Abilities. I’m Jeff Thompson. In the studio today, we got Menus4All. Stephanie Jones will be with us, but co-hosting with me today is Serena Olson, AKA Starts with Quiche and half of the dynamic duo on The Blind Grind.
Serena:
The Blind Grind.
Jeff:
Facebook Live. Every Wednesday.
Serena:
Yeah, every Wednesday at 10:00 AM except fifth Fridays when we broadcast at 4:00 PM.
Jeff:
I know there’s more AKAs involved here.
Serena:
Yeah. AKA the Blind Broad. Yeah. There’s a whole list.
Jeff:
I knew there was more than that. I was going through a couple, but I thought I left that one up. That’s Twitter. Blind Broad. There you go.
Serena:
It’s anywhere I can put it.
Stephanie:
It’s all about the marketing.
Serena:
It’s even in my LinkedIn profile, TBH. It’s my celebrity personality.
Jeff:
When it came time to figure out who’s gonna be co-hosting on here, Starts with Quiche, that was a good clue. It’s food. This is Menus4All, and Stephanie Jones, welcome to Blind Abilities.
Stephanie:
Oh, thank you guys. I’m so excited to be here with you all. And you’re right, quiche is right up our alley.
Serena:
Yeah. Ooh. I should plug quiche into the app and see who’s doing quiche in my neighborhoods.
Stephanie:
Well, you can, you can search by menu item. The menu item, if you’re in the mood for something, you can search for it.
Jeff:
Stephanie, why don’t you tell us about the new app? I’m excited. I remember back in 2019, we were talking about the website. Now it’s in the app.
Stephanie:
It is an app, so in October 2019, we launched our website with 50,000 accessible restaurant menus across the United States. And over and over we heard from individuals this would be really great in an app form. And we said, yeah, you’re right. So we have released our new iOS app Menus4All, so that’s m-e-n-u-s, the number four, a-l-l, in the app store, and it now offers 500,000 accessible restaurant menus across the United States, plus an additional 250,000 in Canada. You can search three convenient ways, whether that’s by restaurant name, a menu item like we were just talking about, or you can search by city slash state, or city and state province in Canada, and zip code search by the time this is released. So yes, we’re just really excited. Just wanna give some people some independence and access to having something that we think about that is so small but is actually so important in our lives.
Jeff:
As soon as I fired up the app, all of a sudden all these restaurants that I did, I have to admit, I did not know some of them were nearby, but when I found the old fashioned ice cream shop, it was like, I’m digging in. I wanted to go see what else they had. What was really neat is they basically have these malts, and it gave me 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, the sizes that it goes up to. So it was useful information, stuff that I didn’t know, that’s how you order ’em. I would’ve just said, give me a vanilla malt. Now I know they have these incremental sizes and different styles you can get. It was really cool.
Stephanie:
One of the great things about the menus is that they’re all structured the same. The headings, it’s built to use the rotor. Let’s say you’re looking for just the malts and you didn’t wanna go through the single serve scoops and the waffle cones, you could just jump to the section that you’re looking for. And then once you expand it, this section will give you, at the top, it’ll tell you how many items are in that section and the price range for that section. So if the price range for appetizers are 2.99 to 13.99, I may decide I wanna skip that section and move on, or I may decide that’s worth my time and trouble to look at.
Serena:
You know, even just exploring my own neighborhood, which I’m already quite familiar with, but I’m delighted to find new places that I didn’t know were there, and I really appreciate the uniformity, the consistency of having useful information. I don’t have to navigate around a whole bunch of extraneous stuff to find the things that I want, and it’s useful and it’s consistent. You’re looking at one menu, you’re kind of looking at all of them. That makes it really easy to navigate, and I’m thinking not just for rediscovering your own neighborhoods in a new way, I’m pretty sure that if my Facebook feed is any indication, I know a lot of blind people who travel an awful lot. Seems like every day a blind friend or colleague is checking into an airport somewhere and I feel like this would be great for folks who are in a new neighborhood or just travel a lot for like picking up quick food.
Stephanie:
I agree, ‘cause imagine, hey, I can check out what’s in the area before I even get on the plane, but then once I’m there at my hotel, I can check to see what’s around me. I move to the conference center, that’s gonna be a different selection than what may have been at my hotel. And so it makes finding those things quick and easy.
Serena:
And I especially appreciate that it puts me at the center of everything. You know, it lists them in order of distance. So you can kind of say, well, you know, I can just walk down the street, or hey, you know, I might wanna hop in a rideshare and go across town because there’s something really extra special over there. Whereas if you’re in a strange city and you’re looking around on a delivery app or on the internet, you don’t know how far away things are necessarily unless you go poking around for that kind of information. And it’s like, I’m on a limited time budget, you know, I wanna find a place that’s just around the corner, or I wanna go out for something nice and I’m willing to go across town, and that is super easy to figure out right out of the gate.
Jeff:
The thing I really liked about it is I’m one of those guys that I sit down in the lobby at a hotel when I’m, and I do this look around type of thing. You know, as the crow flies, you know, you kind of get an idea of what’s out there and stuff. But when I find a restaurant like that, it usually would send me to a website and then I’d have to be wondering what’s the accessibility like there, or is it just a jpeg or whatever it is. But this allows me to see what’s closest and then I can go into it. And like you said, the uniformity of it is pretty straightforward, and once you try one out, then it’s pretty much seamless that you can go and check out other things too.
Stephanie:
Yes, yes. We wanted to make sure that it was user-friendly. So many times you go to look at menus on Google, do a web search. Well, this one, you found the menu this way, and you have to navigate this way. The next one’s gonna be something totally different because they’re not all in the same network. This- Menus4All is whether for the blind or visually impaired or for anyone else it is the first and the largest network of restaurant menus in one place to this, and they’re all accessible, so it’s just a bonus.
Jeff:
What was it like when, I think you were at 50,000 at one point and now you’ve timesed that by 10 and still growing?
Stephanie:
Yes. Oh my gosh. We thought we were doing good at 50,000. We were so excited, and I know for me personally, along my journey, I just was excited about the hundred or so that I had access to here in my own city, but now 500,000 across the United States, and now I can cross the border and go to Canada. It’s just an amazing thing to know that we could offer that many. We know there’s about 1 million plus chains and restaurants across the United States alone, and to be able to offer a good majority of them because there is a mix of the fast food places, there’s a mix of sit-down, mom and pops, independents and chains, high-dollar, mid-dollar, low-dollar, however you wanna phrase it. There’s a good mix of all of it. I mean, when was the last time anyone was in the drive-thru and we had access to a menu? And I think even that part is cool, to be able to offer that.
Serena:
I got a high dollar question for you. Are there any Michelin-rated restaurants in there? And are they tagged?
Stephanie:
They’re not tagged. If there are, off the top of my head, I don’t know. Every place is a different mix, and that’s just because of what is in the database that we’re pulling from. But they’re not tagged at the moment. And that is something that we kicked around, so we wanna put $1 sign, $2 signs, and you know, go on and create that little system. We still have that on the table. So that might be an option in the future.
Serena:
And it may legitimately be a little bit more of a bigger unicorn to wrangle since those kinds of restaurants do tend to be very seasonal and you know, the menu changes from day to day to day.
Stephanie:
Well, that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
Serena:
Yeah. And as a foodie, I would, I’d love to see that in there. I mean, I know there’s Taco Bell, there’s all the like fast food chains and things like that. I’d love to see the other end of the spectrum in there.
Stephanie:
I was very surprised. I was out of town. I had a business center at an upscale, fancier restaurant than I typically eat at, and I sat down and there, it was the very first one in my list in the near me. I almost had sticker shock when I got to read some of the prices, but it was-
Serena:
At least you got to read them and not ask the server.
Stephanie:
Least I got to read them and so, and I got lost, again, I get lost in all the menu items. I get lost in all the descriptions, and I thought I was a foodie, but now I’m finding new stuff I didn’t even know existed. So it’s awesome. But you mentioned updating the menus. One great thing about the database that we’re using is that as restaurants submit their information to the database, that information is pushed out to us immediately. And we wanted a database that was keeping current and that was updating things. Now, if a restaurant doesn’t provide that information, we don’t get that information. A lot of ’em, and we’re thankful for that, keep their menus current, push that information out so that we can provide it to our customers as quickly as possible as well.
Jeff:
Using that database, that probably helps themselves so they don’t have to update their own website as much too, in some way, form or fashion. It sounds like a very efficient way for restaurants to keep abreast of all the internet, using the internet to keep all the people informed because a lot of people are at home before they go to the restaurants to get food or you know, whether they’re gonna, you know, select that restaurant or another one that, that’s what I like to do. I like to sit down and I always skim through a menu, and then so when I get there, I can actually pretend I actually know what I know, and order something that is interesting, but I used to get upset because you order it and they go, oh, that was three months ago. We don’t carry that anymore.
Stephanie:
Yeah, yeah. I’ve had that when I was at a business meeting and I thought I was gonna be a big girl, I was using an app that had come out and my coworkers didn’t notice. They were talking about the menu, and they didn’t notice that neither one of ’em had offered to read or I didn’t ask for any help. So when the waitress came, I placed my order just like everybody else and she stood there and I was like, okay. And she’s like, ma’am, I’ve never heard of that dish. We don’t have that. And I was like, well, it’s right here on the menu. And she’s like, no. She was like, that’s about five years old. And I was so embarrassed. ‘Cause here I thought I was being, you know, all independent. And so the waitress and my two colleagues all started talking to me at once, and I ordered the first thing that I heard clearly and I was like, oh, that’s fine, I’ll eat that. Oh, and I hate to say it, it was a meal that did not fit my taste. I think it also had an ingredient that I was allergic to.
Serena:
Oh, double whammy.
Stephanie:
I know, because I couldn’t read it. I didn’t know. So here I ordered coconut and I can’t eat coconut, so it was not the greatest meal of my life. Those are the types of experiences we’re trying to avoid.
Jeff:
And access to the information is everything because when I was at Olive Garden, this is before I knew about the app being ready, the braille menu is there, I read two things off of it and three people at the table ordered those two things. It’s like, wow, the tide has changed. Once you have access and you talk about something, so now with this, you can read the menu with Menus4All. You can read the menu, be knowledgeable about it, enjoy the conversation while people are looking and they mention something, yeah, I saw that too, you know, it’s just like, do your homework a little bit in advance and there you go.
Stephanie:
Yeah. Well, and you don’t have to do it in advance. You know, when you’re in the restaurant, part of that meal is having that conversation, especially amongst friends. You’re like, oh my gosh, did you see the quesadilla omelet or did you check out the cinnamon roll pancake? And I say these things ‘cause I was at a pancake house this weekend with a friend and one was sighted, two of us blind, visually impaired. All three of us got to participate in the same conversation about the menu. And that was an awesome feeling.
Serena:
And when I’m with, especially my best friend and my significant other, we’re usually strategizing because we’re gonna share at least one thing because it’s about the tasting. I wanna try this and I wanna, oh, you order this and I’ll order that. You know, we’ll pick from each other’s plates a little bit, you know? So there’s gotta be like, some conversation and menu comparing.
Stephanie:
Well, now you can do it. It doesn’t matter whether you’re at home getting ready to go out or, and how many times have you been out running errands and someone says, oh, I’m starving, let’s go find something to eat. This is perfect. Because now I can see what’s near me. I can be like, oh, within half a mile is such and such. We sit down, have a great meal, I love the spaghetti. But once I get there, if I wanna make a U-turn and be like, oh, never mind, I’m getting eggplant parmesan, I can do it.
Jeff:
I never knew the name of the pizza place that was up the road. I always knew there was a pizza place up there. I never knew the name. The pizza place up the road. Oh, the one by the gas station? Yeah, that one. That’s good from there. Oh, oh wow. That’s the name. And then you can favorite these.
Serena:
Yes. Make a list.
Stephanie:
Yeah. And you can add and subtract from your favorites when you’re actually in the vicinity of the restaurant, or actually in the restaurant, you hit “near me,” it’ll come up either first or within the first couple. Especially if you’re in an area that may have a lot of restaurants. But it’s quick and easy or you can bookmark it or like you said, favorite, so you can go back and look later when you’ve actually gotten off the plane and gotten to the hotel and ready to go out to eat, it’s already there for you.
Jeff:
This is so different type of an interview. It’s like we’re all in front of a trough or something, you know, it’s like feed, food, all that stuff. And this app is just helping us access it. It’s like going out, you know? This is really cool. This is a really neat tool for everyone.
Stephanie:
We’ve been thinking about adding a warning.
Jeff:
Whoa.
Stephanie:
Saying that, hey, you’ll experience great exophoria and maybe a few extra calories, but that’s not our fault.
Serena:
Calories may be larger than they appear in this menu.
Stephanie:
You know, I’ve had so many people come out and be like, I just get lost in reading all the stuff. Because like you said, it’s access and once you get a taste of it, you don’t wanna let access go. It’s made me start thinking, well, what else can I have access in? And how else can I apply this? So my business partner and I, we have this dream board of all these things that maybe this one app can lead off into. You never know.
Serena:
I mean, I’m thinking global.
Jeff:
This is really exciting. As soon as my wife heard it, it was like, hey, that’s great. We could get, and then she’s paused, she goes, we could get one for the family, you know, like she wanted it in her phone or something. Is there family sharing? Like if I have the app, can she use the app?
Stephanie:
So that is a great question. So that is one of the things that we had to fill out as a developer. And so, forgive me because I think we turned it on, because we had this discussion. I think we did.
Serena:
Multiple devices.
Stephanie:
Yeah. Yeah. I think it’s on multiple devices and things of that nature. And by the time this podcast is released, the annual subscription will be built in as well.
Jeff:
Mm, yeah. Let’s talk about the annual subscription, I said prescription.
Serena:
Food is medicine.
Jeff:
Yeah, it is. Food is medicine. It’s probably better than medicine.
Serena:
It can be medicine.
Jeff:
2.99 subscription.
Stephanie:
2.99 a month.
Jeff:
I thought that was awesome because you’re gonna use it. And now that we’re out and about more often, and you want to know, even if you want to get on the menu, if you’re Uber eating, you can use this and get a good idea of what’s to order and then have it delivered. But I mean, you get, at least you get a taste of the menu. Hey, that was pretty good. Taste of the menu.
Stephanie:
A taste of the menu. We’re gonna have you start helping me write copy on all of this stuff, with the taste of the menu.
Jeff:
You might wanna start with quiche over there.
Serena:
It does start with quiche.
Stephanie:
It always starts with quiche, it’s a wonderful way to start off. But what we’ve done is we’ve also now added the annual subscription. So with that, it’s 29.99 for a year. Which means that you get basically two months free. So you’re actually paying for 10 months and getting a whole year worth of access.
Jeff:
I like that because I’ve flown into Pittsburgh this year and I was at the hotel and I was just like wondering, you know, I went out for a walk and sometimes those walks turn into journeys and adventures that you didn’t want to get into and you’re just hungry, and you’d settle for anything because you just found something finally. But I could have used it right there. Boom.
Stephanie:
There you go. I was recently at the mall and I have never, you know, the food court, you know, some of the stuff, you just have your tried and true favorites that you always order. Every one of the restaurants in the food court was in there and I just sat there just in awe. And I was like, I didn’t even know these places had all of this stuff.
Jeff:
Oh, wow.
Serena:
And am I correct in assuming airports would be the same story?
Stephanie:
It is possible.
Serena:
You’re probably gonna get a lot of results. There’s a lot of chains in airports, which is why I’m presuming those in particular would probably show up.
Stephanie:
So it is possible that an airport restaurant could be in there. You’re right. I have a trip coming up in January. Hopefully I’ll get to practice and see what’s there.
Serena:
As I do as well.
Jeff:
It must be fun having the app, you know, working on developing the app and then also popping into places and using it and finding out how good it really works for you.
Stephanie:
It was. The day that we actually got it up and going, my business partner and I still were the only ones that had access to it. I had been telling a student that I had to work on this, and this particular day, she had never been out independently in the community. She’d always been with a friend, a family member, but someone sighted. And so I took her out. We went to the grocery store, a couple of clothing stores, and she was extremely nervous. End of our trip, I took her to Starbucks. Because I knew the app had the Starbucks location in it, and I said, what do you want? She’s like, well, I always order the same thing. I said, well, I’ll tell you what. Let me show you something. I said, you’re gonna be the very first person to see this. And I showed it to her and she sat there, I promise you, for about 10 minutes, just going through. She’s like, “Ms. Stephanie, I didn’t even know they had this. Oh, Ms. Stephanie, this is what I wanna order. No, I’m gonna order this,” and just to see her delight, that’s what it’s about. Watching someone have that moment, that aha moment about a menu. Like I said, it sounds so small, but for us who experience it, this is a big deal. Or you know, to me it’s a huge deal. And to watch this, my business partner, yeah, she was in the car testing it. She’s like, Stephanie, I’ve stopped here, it comes up and I’m in my house in the living, and we’re just yelling on the phone because we were so excited, we’re excited. And then everywhere I’ve gone, and even though my children are sighted, my daughter was texting me, she’s like, mom, I’m at school. And I pulled it up. I’m like, okay, but go to class.
Jeff:
How many times have you walked up to, I got a food court, but finally you get up, what do you want or what do you have? Or how can I help you? Whatever they say to you and you go, I’m visually impaired, what do you have like in chicken sandwiches? Or, you know, you just don’t know. But now you can be in the mall. You can just pull it up and just have it. And when you’re in line there, you can be scrolling through it, get up there and just boom. I went to Cinnabons. All I know is they had buns, but they have lots of different things, you know, once I got up there and this one girl was helping me out and stuff like that, but now independently, I could just pull it up, and that one other thing, I didn’t know we had seven Taco Bells right around me.
Serena:
I question the necessity of that, but okay.
Jeff:
I’m not a Taco Bell guy, but it’s like, whoa, there’s a lot of ‘em.
Serena:
But there’s seven. So you know, just in case.
Jeff:
Yeah.
Stephanie:
Obviously someone likes it.
Serena:
Those experiences can be so hit or miss, like when you get an assistant shopper at the grocery store, like some days you have a really great experience and other days it’s like, you know, I’m not a dentist. I don’t wanna pull teeth to get information out of you about the products that I’m shopping for. And it’s like that getting someone to read a menu sometimes as well, and then you just end up picking, you know, the item that you understood, or you know, the one that seemed closest to what you were asking for, even though they didn’t seem to quite understand what you were asking, you know, and you’re just kind of like, there’s people in line behind you, maybe. You’re like, okay, let’s just move through this.
Stephanie:
Yeah. And so I’ll just get anything.
Jeff:
Yeah. I love that you have headings on there, because some people, like when I have someone read the menu to me, they wanna read every, “and it comes with lettuce, tomato, a toothpick, and a mint.” You know, they wanna read every little thing. Basically, let’s jump from hamburgers to salads to, you know, first of all, then let’s dig in a little bit and then expand on something. But with headings, I can just, chmp-chmp-chmp-chmp break down to what I find appealing.
Stephanie:
That’s right. You can go throw a menu probably quicker than your peers can at this point because you can use those headings to jump through and find the section that you want.
Serena:
Thinking of this very funny moment I had very recently where I went out to a restaurant, a restaurant that was new to me, I knew it was Mexican and they specialized in seafood, and that was about all I knew. I’d never been there before. I was, it was myself and two other blind people and the parents of one of those blind people. And my friend, my closer friend of the two was sitting next to her mother and her mom had a menu and they were leaned in together going through the menu, like just boom, boom, boom, boom. And dad was playing reader for the other two of us. And he may or may not have imbibed prior to lunch, and slash or he was just being really cheeky. He was, I know he is an experienced menu reader, and in that moment he was not behaving like one. And so I was squirming in my seat, like trying to coax him to skip this or go to that or reread this or skip the descriptions and all this, you know, and I’m just sitting there, you know, simmering with envy at my friend leaned in just like, you know, boom, boom, boom. She knows what she’s ordering. She’s getting her cocktail, you know, before dinner. They got the appetizer meal. They’re sitting and they’re just talking about the weather, whatever. And I’m like, okay, what was the chef special again? Like-
Jeff:
Page three.
Stephanie:
Well, that’s okay. Next time, you’ll be able to whip out your app and you’ll be able to find what you want, and then you’ll enjoy your cocktail and have a discussion about the weather at the same time.
Serena:
Yeah.
Stephanie:
How about that. And then you can pass the phone to dad and so he can find what he wants too.
Jeff:
That’s awesome. So where can people once again find the app?
Stephanie:
Currently it is in the Apple App Store under Menus4All, m-e-n-u-s and the number four, if you just put in that much, the suggestions will come up and it’s the first one, Menus4All. And then of course, if you need a download link, you can go to menus4all.com. Again, m-e-n-u-s, the number four, a-l-l dot c-o-m, and find out more information, see some of the tutorials about how to use the near me and the search feature and the later alert light and get questions answered. And then you can always reach out to me, at Stephanie, s-t-e-p-h-a-n-i-e@menus4all.com.
Jeff:
Yeah, and it was really easy to get going on it because as soon as it had my credentials, boom, there were all these Taco Bells lying up and just 0.4 miles away, is this restaurant right up here, and I know that one is, but there’s another one 0.6, I’d never been there, you know? So I’m kind of curious now, I’m gonna dig in a little deeper at some of these discoveries that I’m finding.
Stephanie:
It may well be worth the extra fifth of a mile.
Jeff:
I think so. And within a fifth, that’s within walking distance, you know?
Serena:
That’s right.
Stephanie:
There you go.
Jeff:
Access to a little bit of information gave me that.
Stephanie:
That’s what we wanna do.
Jeff:
Stephanie, thank you so much for coming on. And Serena, thank you. I knew you were a foodie.
Stephanie:
Thank you, both of you.
Serena:
Absolutely delightful.
Stephanie:
Yes. This has been wonderful.
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Jeff:
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-Through each other’s eyes…
[Multiple voices overlapping, in unison, to form a single sentence]
…We can then begin to bridge the gap between the limited expectations, and the realities of Blind Abilities.