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Jeff Thompson:
Welcome to Blind Abilities. We get an exciting show today, bringing you Lex Gillette. I’m going to call him the journeyman. He’s a four time Paralympic champion. He’s got three golds, three silvers, two bronze, world record holder, the list goes on. Yeah, he’s the real journeyman. You’ll probably do pretty good because the last time you were late for your track meet, you broke the world record. So…
Lex Gillette:
I need that type of luck again. I got a track meet on Saturday.
Jeff Thompson:
Oh really?
Lex Gillette:
Yeah.
Jeff Thompson:
And you’re taking time out to podcast?
Lex Gillette:
I’ll do anything for you guys Jeff.
Jeff Thompson:
And introducing Mitch Smedley. We are going to call him the apprentice because he’s just starting out his big league athletic career. He’s been invited out to Colorado Springs by the United States Association of Blind Athletes to attend the Emerging Stars Camp.
Jeff Thompson:
Hey Lex, I’ve got a sports fanatic that heard you’re coming on the Blind Abilities and he just got accepted to the Stars ID Camp out in Colorado Springs. And he wanted to ask you a couple of questions and meet up with you. So let me introduce you to Mitch Smedley.
Mitch Smedley:
How are you?
Lex Gillette:
I’m good. How are you?
Mitch Smedley:
I’m pretty good.
Lex Gillette:
Hey, I got a lot of answers and hopefully they will satisfy your questions.
Jeff Thompson:
There you go.
Mitch Smedley:
Yeah, it’s great to meet you.
Lex Gillette:
Yeah, it’s nice to meet you too. Where are you out at Mitch?
Mitch Smedley:
I’m just outside of Philadelphia.
Lex Gillette:
Okay.
Mitch Smedley:
Yeah. How about you?
Lex Gillette:
I’m in Chula Vista right now, about 20 minutes south of downtown San Diego, but I’m originally from the East Coast. I’m from Raleigh, North Carolina. So I’ve been to Philly a few times. Are you a cheese steak guy?
Mitch Smedley:
I do not like cheesecakes. cheese steaks sorry.
Jeff Thompson:
That’s a game breaker. Sorry Mitch, podcast is over.
Lex Gillette:
If you’re going to Colorado Springs for a little ID, I don’t think cheese steak is going to be on the regimen.
Mitch Smedley:
No.
Jeff Thompson:
But they might have one of Lex’s favorite, Fruit Loops.
Lex Gillette:
I’m a Fruit Loop guy unfortunately. But don’t… You can’t broadcast that too loudly.
Jeff Thompson:
No.
Mitch Smedley:
No. That’s your training secret.
Lex Gillette:
Exactly.
Jeff Thompson:
So what happens when you put a journeyman and an apprentice together? Well, a very good conversation. And if you check the show notes, you’ll find the link to the Lex Gillette podcast we did in November,, 2017. And for more podcasts with the blindness perspective, check us out on the web at www.blindabilities.com. On Twitter @BlindAbilities, and download the free Blind Abilities app from the App Store and Google Play Store. That’s two words, Blind Abilities.
Jeff Thompson:
And try out the Blind Abilities Skill on your Amazon device just by saying, “Enable Blind Abilities.” And now, please welcome Lex Gillette and Mitch Smedley. We hope you enjoy. Welcome to Blind Abilities. I’m Jeff Thompson, and in the studio with me today is a four time Olympian, three golds, three silvers, two bronze, the list goes on. And now we got Lex Gillette. How are you doing Lex?
Lex Gillette:
I’m doing good Jeff. How are you doing?
Jeff Thompson:
I’m doing great. Thanks for taking the time and coming on to Blind Abilities and chatting with the listeners.
Lex Gillette:
Absolutely. It’s my pleasure. I’m excited.
Jeff Thompson:
You’re in training I bet.
Lex Gillette:
I am in training five days a week right now. It’s competition season. Actually right now, we just returned from Italy last evening. We are just trying to get acclimated back to Pacific Standard Time and at this present time just trying to stay awake and make sure that I can get a good night’s rest tonight. Jet lag is no joke.
Jeff Thompson:
And you got something coming up this Saturday.
Lex Gillette:
We do have a competition here, a local one here in Chula Vista, California and I’m pretty excited about that. It’ll be my third time long jumping this year, so it’ll be nice to get back out there in the sand, play a little bit, see how far I can jump.
Jeff Thompson:
Now, we did an interview talking about all your accolades, all your competitional levels. Could you remind the listeners what competition you participate in?
Lex Gillette:
I’m primarily a long jumper, so I compete in long jump. That’s where you run down a runway and jump, and go as far as you can. So you want to jump for a length. And then I also run the 100 meters and we do have a 4 by 100 meter relay team that I’ve been a part of for the past few years. So they try to keep me busy.
Jeff Thompson:
You hold the world record.
Lex Gillette:
Yes. The world record in the long jump is 22 feet one inch or 6.73 meters. Set that initially in 2011 and then tied it again in 2015. So the luck of the draw, I jumped the exact same mark in 2015 at the Toronto Parapan American Games. Yeah. It’s been standing since then. So now this year I’m looking to do some big things, so hopefully I’ll be able to break that at some point this year.
Jeff Thompson:
It’s nice when you have to break your own record.
Lex Gillette:
Yeah. But you know, there’s always people out there trying to knock you off your spot. So you just got to continue to work hard and push yourself. Never take anything for granted. Just keep working hard and doing what you can to be the best and break those records.
Jeff Thompson:
Well, you speak from a lot of experience. You started in 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016. Now you’ve got 2020 in Tokyo, Japan in near future.
Lex Gillette:
Absolutely. That is the goal. Going to Tokyo next year, representing team USA for a fifth consecutive time at the Paralympic Games. So that’s definitely pretty exciting. It’s something that I’ll certainly be proud of, assuming that I make the team. We have our trials next summer. So that’s the competition, that we have to go there and do everything that we need to do from an athletic standpoint, compete to the best of your ability and put yourself in the best position to make that team. So I look forward in being able to travel to Japan. I’ve never been to Tokyo. Going in there, competing, having a good time, and then celebrating the goal hopefully.
Jeff Thompson:
There you go. USA, right?
Lex Gillette:
USA all day.
Jeff Thompson:
That must be fun. I mean, the experience that you’ve have doing it the first time was probably just wow. You know, wowed by it the second time. What’s it like now?
Lex Gillette:
You know, you can’t really take it for granted because there’s so many talented people. As years go on people get stronger, they get faster and they want to be on that top platform. They want to be up there with the gold medal around their neck. So as an individual athlete, I try to make sure that I continue to stay hungry, and just remember how it was in 2004 and 2008 when I was really working my butt off trying to make those teams, and never really losing that drive and that determination, and that will.
Lex Gillette:
I think once we get into these areas of life where we become complacent and just go through the motions, that’s where we can get into a little bit of trouble. So I’m just always trying to stay hungry and appreciate the journey. Definitely have some tough days, have a lot of fun days, have good competitions, bad competitions, but you take it all in and just continue to keep growing and know that tomorrow’s a new day. Get out there and the goal is to be better than what you were the day before the last competition. So it’s certainly a lot of fun and I appreciate it for sure. Something I don’t take for granted
Jeff Thompson:
Lex last time you were on, and I just love it, you said the difference between sight and vision.
Lex Gillette:
Yeah, I think that a lot of it revolves around sight showing us what is, that’s what you see as the function of the eyes. Vision reveals what can be. That’s your mind, that’s your heart. They are two totally different things. And you know sight, it can only carry you but so far, vision can carry you to the end of time.
Lex Gillette:
Myself, when I roll out of the bed each morning, there’s that vision that really keeps me going. Thinking about winning gold in 2020, or thinking about what I want my life to look like 15, 20 years down the road and how I want to impact the world. That’s what really keeps that fire lit internally.
Jeff Thompson:
And in the studio right now, we have a young man with a vision of his own. I’d like to introduce you to Mitch Smedley. He’s been invited out to Colorado Springs to participate in the Stars ID Camp. He loves sports, loves athletics and he’s a goalball enthusiast. Welcome aboard Mitch. How are you doing?
Mitch Smedley:
I’m good. Thanks so much for having me.
Lex Gillette:
What’s going on Mitch? How are you?
Mitch Smedley:
I am so good. So it’s an honor to meet you. It is. I mean, someone who’s been there so many times and world record holder. A lot of people don’t get that opportunity. So I’m really thankful for you guys having me on today.
Lex Gillette:
Oh man, it’s great to be chatting with you.
Jeff Thompson:
Well Mitch, I’ll back away from the mic here, and Lex is all yours.
Mitch Smedley:
Mainly, just how do you keep yourself contained in terms of, how do you not always go for seconds and thirds. How do you always stay in shape? I guess you’re exercising every day. What’s your routine like in that department?
Lex Gillette:
I think a lot of it is you really having that discipline as an athlete. You know that when it comes to training there is a certain routine that you follow. For me, I know that I go to the track, I take 30, 45 minutes to warm up and then we have an actual workout that our coach puts together. And it could be us running 100 meter repeats, or working on runway approaches, or it could be working on actual jumps.
Lex Gillette:
So there’s so many different things, but you know as an athlete that you have to discipline yourself. You have to make sure that you show up, you do what is asked of you, and you put forward the best effort. And along with that comes having discipline and being able to get rest and recovery. Being able to get the adequate amount of sleep. Doing what you can from that standpoint so that you’ll be able to be in a position to come out on Tuesday and have a phenomenal workout just like you did on Monday. And coming out on Wednesday and having a great workout like you did on Tuesday.
Lex Gillette:
And it goes the same with your nutrition. Having that discipline to not get those seconds or thirds, or not eating that… with the extra sugars or the unhealthy products, the chips and snack type things. Because at the end of the day, I talk a lot about vision and being able to see your destination, where you want to end up. And when you are so locked in to that, that vision helps create that discipline for you because you know that if you are shooting for a goal, eating the Doritos or pints of Ben and Jerry’s and things like that, that might not be the best thing for you here in getting on the top of that platform.
Lex Gillette:
So having that discipline, choosing the right foods, making sure you get the right amount of rest, doing what you need to do on the track, off of the track, inside a sportsman, inside of the weight room. And having that tunnel vision, if you will, staying locked into what the ultimate goal is, I think is really what is key in helping you achieve athletic excellence.
Mitch Smedley:
Okay.
Jeff Thompson:
Mitch, you’re headed out to the Stars ID Camp. Why don’t you tell us a little bit about that?
Mitch Smedley:
Yes. A month or two ago, my mom came to me and said, “Hey, I just saw this link for this blind sports Stars ID Camp for the US Paralympic team.” And immediately I put down whatever I was doing. I’m like, “Whoa, really? That’s crazy.” And she’s like, “Yeah, and we’re going to send in an application.” I’m like, “Okay.”
Mitch Smedley:
So with her help and actually the help of the folks over at Camp Abilities… So I go there every year. That’s a blind sports camp out here in Pennsylvania. They have them all over the country for those that are interested. We actually had some of the folks there actually be our references. And we sent in our application, and it came back at the end of May that they accepted me and I’m going to go play other sports out in Colorado.
Mitch Smedley:
And really the one I’m most excited for that I put in my application is goalball. Lex I don’t know if you’ve heard of that one.
Lex Gillette:
Yeah.
Mitch Smedley:
The blind sport goalball, yeah. It’s a lot of fun. For those that don’t know, it’s almost like blind dodgeball where you’re trying to score a goal and it’s going to be awesome this summer. So I’ve been exercising every day, starting to eat right or at least a little better than I have been and just getting ready for it.
Lex Gillette:
Yeah, that’s really exciting. I remember years ago when I was first starting off and trying to figure out what sport that I wanted to participate in, I was invited out to Colorado Springs to be involved in some goalball tryouts and yeah it’s a lot of fun. It’s really hard being there in Colorado Springs because of the elevation. So certainly you want to make sure you stay hydrated and you know goalball yes, it’s a lot of fun diving on the ground and blocking that ball.
Lex Gillette:
And again, for the listeners, the ball, it has bells inside of it, so you’re able to hear it and that’s how the athletes are able to track the ball down. It was a rude awakening for me because I had played goalball in high school and had been invited to compete at the Goalball Nationals that was down in St. Augustine, Florida a couple of times. And my team, we had won the championship my senior year. So I’m thinking that next level, this is going to be nothing.
Lex Gillette:
I just got done going to the top of the mountain. And then we go to Colorado Springs and then you have all of these… The Tyler Marins of the world and Chris Dodds, and all these other guys and they’re slinging this ball and I’m out there. I’m like 135 pounds and the ball is killing me. It really woke me up and I was like, “Man, these guys are not playing right now.” So it’s a lot of fun. It’s a very competitive sport. I checked it out in Rio in 2016, so I was there when the guys won the silver. It was a really awesome experience. And yeah, it’s a very competitive sport, very fun. I think that crowds love it as well. It’s pretty exciting.
Mitch Smedley:
Yeah. The only tough part for the crowd is that they have to stay quiet during the… while the ball’s in play, you know.
Lex Gillette:
I know. That was hard, some of the crowds there in Brazil. Yeah.
Jeff Thompson:
They threw that ball pretty hard.
Lex Gillette:
Yeah, they are firing it.
Mitch Smedley:
And it’s a heavy ball too, for those that don’t know. It’s about the size of a basketball, but I’d say it’s at least twice as heavy as one. And these guys are just winging it down this court. The goal is to block it with your body. You don’t use your hands or a glove or anything. You’re blocking it with your body and sometimes that’s your face.
Lex Gillette:
We also have to mention that the court is the size of a volleyball court. So when the ball… When these guys are slinging this ball, it’s covering a pretty short distance, and they’re throwing this thing, I don’t know, like 40 miles an hour or like… That thing is moving fast, and your reflexes, you have to be moving fast. You got to get on the ground fast to block this ball. It’s a very exciting sport.
Mitch Smedley:
Yeah, it’s a lot of reflexes and endurance. And then you have to get back up and then you got to go back down there. And for those who don’t know, everyone’s blindfolded. There’s three people on a team, so all six players are blindfolded and the court has hit lines with rope under them so that you can feel your way around the court, orient Yourself. So that’s another whole aspect of the game. Once you block it, try in where you started. It takes a lot of practice.
Jeff Thompson:
That’s awesome. Congratulations on going out there, getting your application, starting your journey, just like Lex did.
Mitch Smedley:
Thank you.
Jeff Thompson:
Lex, you just got back from Italy and now you’re jet lagging, trying to get back ready. How tough is that for someone to go to Italy, come back, then compete the next following weekend?
Lex Gillette:
It’s tough, I think. I mean, you may be able to speak to this, but for me it’s hard being basically totally blind, and traveling to these different places in the world where you’re nine, 10 hours ahead. And so, sometimes I’m over in these different countries and my body is still on West Coast time. So I’m there, my body is thinking that it’s four o’clock in the afternoon in California, but in Italy it’s one o’clock in the morning. So I’m wide awake, which I need to be asleep because I have to get ready for practice or for competition.
Lex Gillette:
So that’s hard at times. Definitely I have taken my fair share of Melatonin to help out with that, get me in a space where I can get some good sleep. But really it’s just all about trying to move around as much as possible during those daytime hours. And then once it’s time to lay down, get in there and get in bed and try to get some good sleep.
Lex Gillette:
So right now, we got back pretty late yesterday and I actually have not been asleep since yesterday, and I’m going to hold on for the next six, seven hours or so, and hopefully I can do that. And when it’s time to get in my bed, when I lay my head on this pillow, hopefully I’ll knock out.
Jeff Thompson:
There you go. You learn how to do it, don’t you? Fight through it and stay up, keep exercising, watch some TV. I don’t know.
Lex Gillette:
Something you got to keep them moving because you want to get back on that schedule again because, I mean, the next day you got to get back to your daily routine. So you certainly don’t want to be out there falling asleep at the wheel.
Jeff Thompson:
Lex, you’re still an Aira explorer?
Lex Gillette:
Yeah, absolutely. I love Aira.
Jeff Thompson:
Well, that’s great because when you were on Blind Abilities two years ago, you had just become an Aira explorer, and you went shopping, and… Like I said, I promised I won’t mention Fruit Loops so I’ll keep that on the down low. And you continue as an Aira explorer today?
Lex Gillette:
Yes, absolutely. Still continuing to use Aira. Aira is absolutely… It’s phenomenal. It’s definitely helping me and continuing to strengthen that independence, and it empowers me and puts me in a position where I can take care of all of my daily tasks. When I’m traveling, if I need Aira to help me through the airport, it’s there. One click of the call button in the app and I have somebody who can help me get from where the Uber drops me off to the United ticket counter.
Lex Gillette:
Some of my most more recent travels have taken me to places where I needed to have the menu read, like the in-room dining menu. And I’ve had Aira there to be able to give me that feedback on what the selections are and being able to even help me through the hotel. So Aira is amazing. I would certainly suggest it to anyone in the blind and visually impaired community because it really opens up a whole new world just being able to access information and being able to maneuver, to navigate, to travel. It’s really phenomenal.
Jeff Thompson:
I was out in Washington DC and I had to do some edits and I had to do some vocal cuts. I had to put them in, but I had to record it in this air conditioning unit that was going on all the time. It was just bugging me because it was always coming on. So even if I turn it down, the air would come on, and if I turn it up the heat would come on. So I couldn’t find that middle zone.
Jeff Thompson:
So I thought, hey, I got Aira, and I’m on the $29 plan where you get 30 minutes. And I turned it on, within seconds I had it shut off and I was back recording. I didn’t have to call down to the hotel clerk or anybody or get some stranger to come into the room or anything.
Lex Gillette:
Right.
Jeff Thompson:
It was just a simple button, but there’s four of them. I didn’t know which one.
Lex Gillette:
Exactly and I’ve called them before too and asked them to help me change the thermostat because I don’t like to be super cold, it’s simple as that. Call them up and they’ll let you know what thermostat is on and how to change that. So it’s really incredible.
Jeff Thompson:
Yeah. Mitch, have you ever heard of Aira?
Mitch Smedley:
I have actually heard of it but I haven’t ever used it. But it sounds like an amazing program and something that really is the future today. And it’s just a great idea. You know, people helping people do things that you wouldn’t even think about. Like you said, turning that air conditioner off or changing your thermostat. Most sighted people don’t think about things, but it’s those little everyday things that we blind and visually impaired people struggle with. And I think that Aira is really a great way to neutralize that.
Lex Gillette:
And you know what, I’ll tell you something really cool. I went to IKEA for the first time last year and I was looking for a cabinet, some drawers for putting my clothes and things like that. So we go to IKEA and I find one of the cabinets that I like. I didn’t realize that when you purchase things from IKEA, it’s not assembled. So I paid for it, things like that, and we get it home. And so I’m sitting there like, “All right. How in the world am I going to put this together?” I have a few screwdrivers and things like that, and I was just going to ask one of my friends to help me, but I said, “You know what, this will be a really awesome experience. Let me call up Aira and see if I can get them to help me.”
Lex Gillette:
And I was determined to put that thing together. And with the help of two agents… I had one agent, but their shift ended up concluding while we were on the call and I just called in and got another person, but I was able to successfully put that… those drawers together. And it is right here in my room, it’s operating just fine. It’s perfect. I have all my things in there, and that was one of my glory moments that I was really proud of, and putting that together with the help of Aira. So they’re really incredible. There’s nothing that is unattainable. I mean, they really provide access to everything.
Mitch Smedley:
That’s awesome.
Jeff Thompson:
Well, it’s really neat that… I think for someone who hasn’t tried it, I’ve tried it so I can’t say I haven’t tried it anymore, but if you go to a Walgreens, a Target or some other places where you can use it for free, you just take out your phone. It’s a free app. You get to experience it. Once you get that experience, it’s like, “Okay, let me try.” I think when you get the app, you get free 30 minutes for seven days that you can try, and so you can get some experience. Yeah, don’t take my word on that, but I think that’s still going. Yeah. For $29 I get 30 minutes. So I make use of them.
Lex Gillette:
Yeah. You’ll easily get hooked in on their site, Aira, A-I-R-A aira.io, there’s a list of all of these access points that they have. So Jeff was mentioning how you can download the app and when you enter certain geo-fences, you’re able to use the service for free. So Walgreens, certain Targets and then certain airports within the country. So in San Diego, I fly out of there a lot. So when I’m in the range of San Diego Airport, I’m able to use Aira for free. I think the… I don’t know if the San Diego Zoo is an access point yet, but so many museums and things like that. So even though you may not have a subscription, there still may be an access point in your area and you could download Aira, try it out and explore the city.
Jeff Thompson:
There you go Mitch. We’re putting the screws to you.
Mitch Smedley:
It’s making me think I got to try it.
Jeff Thompson:
Yeah, that’s what I had to do. I had to try it. And now I collect record albums of vintage record albums, and I can’t go to the places and sifts through the albums like I used to. So my next plan is to figure out a way to have the phone tilted just right and just flip, and do like I used to do. That should be fun. Lex, as you keep training five days a week, you’re headed towards Tokyo. That’s the big goal, but you’ve got lots of stuff going on in between. I want to wish you all the luck and you don’t need the luck, but…
Lex Gillette:
No, everybody needs a little luck every now and then. A lot of it is skill of course. There’s nothing wrong with a little luck. I’ll take all the luck I can get.
Jeff Thompson:
Well, there you go. Lex last time you were on, I asked the question, what advice would you have for a high school student transitioning into college? He gave such a great answer.
Lex Gillette:
I would say at that age, I was just trying to learn as much as possible. Reading as much as possible, talking to people, just learning as much as you can because I feel like what that does is, the more that you learn and the more that you’re exposed to, that allows you to expand your reach. And when you’re able to have all of that knowledge and to have all of those resources available to you, it increases your opportunities. And I think it points to a phrase I like to say that, the further that you can see, the more you can be.
Lex Gillette:
I can’t express how important it is to really just go out there and just to try different things. And sometimes it’s going to be… You’re going to feel a little uncomfortable, but the one thing that I do know is that when you have those moments where you feel a little discomfort or things are out of your comfort zone, you’re on the cusp of something amazing when you have those moments because you’re really expanding your reach.
Jeff Thompson:
We’ve been talking to Lex Gillette. He’s the world record holder for the long jump, multiple gold, silver, bronze medalist, four time Olympian and he’s got a vision, a goal, Tokyo Japan, August of 2020. And Mitch Smedley, goalball enthusiast headed off to Colorado for the first time for the Stars ID Camp. I want to thank you both for taking the time and coming on the Blind Abilities. Thank you very much for coming on.
Lex Gillette:
Yes, Mitch you know what? Mitch, I want to wish you all the best. Definitely good luck to you.
Mitch Smedley:
Thank you so much.
Lex Gillette:
… be a phenomenal experience. Soak it all in. Be a sponge, learn as much as possible. I mean, this is where myself and a lot of athletes, this is where it all start and you can never take these moments for granted. Really go out there and give it your all. You’re obviously somebody who they deemed worthy of this opportunity. So go in there and own it. Have a good time. We’ll be looking forward to hearing some good things out of that.
Mitch Smedley:
All right. Thank you so much and yeah, you keep it up with your competition this weekend, and like Jeff said, next year in Tokyo and beyond.
Lex Gillette:
I appreciate it.
Mitch Smedley:
Bring home another gold.
Lex Gillette:
That’s the plan.
Jeff Thompson:
Well, thank you very much. I think the advice you’re giving is very transferable. I think people can take this advice and actually apply it to the challenges that they’re putting upon themselves today. And Mitch, enjoy Colorado and as Lex says, gather all the information you can, soak it up. And Lex keep up all the good work that you’re doing and thanks for taking the time and chatting with Mitch, and I want to thank both of you for taking the time and talking to the listeners. Thanks guys.
Lex Gillette:
Awesome. I’ll be looking forward for you having me back on.
Jeff Thompson:
Lex, we’ll leave the mic on for you. You as well Mitch.
Mitch Smedley:
All right. Thank you so much.
Jeff Thompson:
It’s always a great time having Lex Gillette in the studio, and for the first time having Mitch Smedley in the studio as well. I’m sure it won’t be the last time, so we’ll probably be following up with these two athletes, the journeyman and the apprentice. Be sure to check out the show notes for the links and check out your state services for the blind, your vocational rehab, and see what they can do for you. Big thank you goes out to Chee Chau for his beautiful music, and you can find him on Twitter @LCheeChau. I’d like to thank you for listening. We hope you enjoyed, and until next time, bye bye.
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