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Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Welcome to Blind Abilities, I\u2019m Jeff Thompson. Today we\u2019re going to be talking about Envision\u2014that\u2019s the company that makes the Envision AI app, one of the best, most accurate OCR readers out there, available on Android or iOS. Check them out at letsenvision.com. Now we\u2019re going to be talking about the Envision glasses, the AI-powered glasses with the Envision app built right into them, and as they say, let your glasses speak to you. And if you haven\u2019t tried out the Envision AI app, you get a 14-day trial. So, if you have iOS or Android, download it, kick it around, and you\u2019ll be surprised, you\u2019ll be impressed, you\u2019ll probably move this app right to your front page and use it as your one-stop shop for OCR and much, much more. And that very same app is going to be on the Envision glasses\u2014now, these are glasses where it\u2019ll be able to load up the app right to it, and with some gestures and voice commands coming out, you\u2019re going to have full functionality of the Envision AI app right from the glasses. And also with me in the studio is Scott, a.k.a Kayaker from Boston, how\u2019re you doing Scott?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
I\u2019m doing very well, thanks, Jeff.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Well, we\u2019ve got Ilse in the studio from Envision, thank you so much for taking the time to come onto Blind Abilities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Thank you so much, Jeff, it\u2019s great to be here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
With all this shutdown, lockdown going on, and stuff like that, everyone was probably expecting to see you at the conventions and everything, well, they get to hear you here on Blind Abilities, so welcome.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Thank you so much, it\u2019s so good to be here, and we wish we could have been to all the conventions and everything, but unfortunately we couldn\u2019t. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Oh, that would have been so cool, so many people were going to want to try on them glasses, the Envision glass.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, it\u2019s something totally new. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, it is, it\u2019s exciting! I was talking to Scott earlier about how the Envision AI app would be on the glasses, and that\u2019s like, wow, and he said, \u201cI want to be there,\u201d so I\u2019m glad you could make it, Scott.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Thanks, it\u2019s exciting to hear about the new technology and all the cool stuff with the Enterprise Google Glass that\u2019s definitely for us. I\u2019m dying to hear more, so do you want to jump in and tell us what the new product is?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
You guys know the Envision app, you know that you can, you know, read texts on the go with the app, you can read documents, multiple documents, you can scan scenes, barcodes, colors, anything like that. Well, what we\u2019ve done with the Envision glasses is that we have put the app on the glasses, so everything you can do with your phone you can now also do with Google Glass, which is way easier because then you don\u2019t have to hold your phone in your hand, you just have the camera on your head, and you scan everything around you and it\u2019ll be read out to you like the app does. An extra feature we also added to the Envision glass is the video call, so for whatever reason Envision can help you out somewhere, either- if it\u2019s at the store, a roadblock, or at the train station, whatnot, you can call someone who has the Envision Ally app, and they will see what you see. So basically, they can help you out wherever you are. So, yeah, that\u2019s Envision on the glasses, and then our big goal with it is that it\u2019s going to be really a platform also for other apps to be on there, so that you don\u2019t just have Envision on there and Envision\u2019s features, but also, you know, let\u2019s say Be My Eyes or things like that, so we\u2019re discussing with a couple of companies now, and yeah, it would be great to have some more very high-value apps on there that people can really use.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Oh yeah, that\u2019s exciting, especially when you\u2019re talking about being able to connect up to someone- say you have someone in your family or something that does have the app downloaded, and you call them-<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mm-hm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
-that\u2019s direct information that you can use instantaneously.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, definitely. It\u2019s really nice for most people to have a person that they know right there. Yeah, we\u2019re excited about this feature.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Oh yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
So that feature depends on your cell phone or Android or an iOS device to make the cellular call, correct?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Everything is on the glasses-<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Okay.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
-for the user, the person that gets the calls or that receives the call will have the Envision app.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ah, so do you need cellular service with the glasses itself, or is that- how does the data work for the glasses?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yes, it\u2019s connected to WiFi or if you\u2019re outside, your hotspot. So, that way you have your internet to make the video call. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Gotcha. So the recommended solution if you\u2019re at that train station and there\u2019s no wireless there, you\u2019d set your cell phone to be the hotspot and have your glasses just connect to that?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yes-<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Gotcha.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Have your hotspot ready when you walk out the door, and you straight away have that WiFi that you might need on the road.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Gotcha.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
That\u2019s great, because hotspot, I just became familiar with that, I\u2019ve got a trailer up in the middle of nowhere, and I don\u2019t have WiFi, so I hooked up the hotspot for $10.00 extra a month I have a hotspot, and 15 gigabytes through Verizon, and they\u2019re not sponsoring this, by no means, but it works great, I was able to- I mean, hotspotting is really cool, I mean, I\u2019m new to it so I\u2019m excited to talk about it, but we\u2019re talking about the glasses and Envision AI right now. But, yeah, that\u2019s great that you can be able to do that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, we usually hear actually a lot, especially since the corona situation, the internet is not always great anymore?.So, like, a lot of us use hotspot just to work every now and then if internet fails on us for a bit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mm-hm. So, people can now go to the website, and that\u2019s letsenvision.com?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, that\u2019s letsenvision.com\/glasses for the glasses, and the preorder is still open. We don\u2019t have that many glasses left, but yeah, it\u2019s still open.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Still open, and you expect that preorders will stop and they\u2019ll be available, what, in August?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yes, so we\u2019re shipping the first glasses that were ordered in the preorder campaign end of August, and after that it\u2019s going to be- yeah, regular sales.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
So, what\u2019s it like being at Envision AI when you\u2019re coming up with all these innovations? I mean, you went from the app to adding feature after feature, I really like the batch mode that I just noticed, where multiple documents all at once-<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
-and now, moving to the glasses and entertaining other companies to come onto the glasses, this is huge.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, I think what I like most about Envision is we do everything with our users. So, all the features that you see that we\u2019re adding, that we\u2019re optimizing, that we\u2019re thinking about, are all on the app because people asked us to, you know, try to get these features on the app. Same for the glasses, it\u2019s going really well now, we have 15 glasses out for testing, and we get a lot of feedback, and we immediately try to incorporate that into the glasses, make everything better from feature requests to sounds and things like that, it\u2019s all super important, so we really are very close to our users and potential users, just so we can make the product for them. I think that\u2019s why everything is going so fast all the time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
It seems like it\u2019s always been community driven.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, yeah, definitely, especially because we\u2019re sighted, so if you want to make this product you can\u2019t just make a product that you think will work, that doesn\u2019t make any sense.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mm-hm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
We work together with users, our team, our ambassadors, to really optimize and make sure we\u2019re there. And also, the glasses- there was really a lot of questions actually came in on wearables, you know, made it a little bit easier to walk around with a cane or a guide dog and still see everything, so having one hand still free, so that\u2019s why the guys really looked into glasses, and they decided that the glass that we have now, the Google Glass, was really the best one for what we needed out of the hardware for our software but also the partnership with Google is very nice, so that\u2019s also really important for us.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
The form factor is the Google Glass, but the software inside, is it a version of the Android that\u2019s in there?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
It\u2019s a version of Android, but we have built our own layer. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mm. That\u2019s cool, that would be Scott\u2019s department.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, the Android stuff. But as far as the hardware itself, when the Google Glass first came out, there was some resistance to the style and the people- has the Enterprise Glass been modified since the initial release or can you describe a little bit about the hardware, and, you know, what camera capabilities are actually on it so people have a sense of what they would look like walking around with these things on?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, so it\u2019s very delicate actually, so if you think about it, on your right ear you have a little bit of a bigger, how do you call that, a glass-<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
The stem, I think, or frame? On the side of your-<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Right on the side, yeah-<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
It\u2019s a little thicker that has a touchpad, then if you move closer towards your eye there is the camera, and a little teeny-tiny glass screen, and the other part of the glass all the way through the other ear is a titanium band, very thin. So it\u2019s actually a very elegant glasses that you have on your face. What we also have is the Smith optics frame, that is a real, proper frame, but yeah, you can choose either one.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott: <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Okay, so you can get it with sort of protective sunglasses or tinted lenses, is that correct, if-<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, that\u2019s correct, or for people with low vision, that-<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Right.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yes, definitely<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Gotcha.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Well, that\u2019s sweet. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Very cool. And the camera itself is just one camera, so you\u2019re not getting any stereo footage for accurate depth perception, just a single camera, correct?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
One camera, yeah, that\u2019s correct.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Alright.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
But that would be great for if I just wanted to find something out instantaneously, I could just call up through the Google Call, and they would have access to the camera through the app that my friend would have on their phone, and boom, there we go. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
I\u2019m always looking towards the future, and what features can be coming up the pipeline with all the developer conferences and all the advances in machine learning, and vision recognition, stuff like that. I said this, you know, three years ago, this is exactly the type of technology that you\u2019re going to be seeing in products for us, that\u2019ll help us navigate scenes, you know, going far beyond OCR. So, is everything that\u2019s in the existing Android and iOS app supported in the glass, and how are the controls done, then, if I\u2019m not using my touchscreen, can you describe a little bit about how one might execute all the functionalities of the glass?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yes, definitely. So all the features that are on the apps are also going to be on the glasses, plus the video calling. It basically works like this\u2014the touchpad on the side of your head is a touchpad, and you tap, you scroll, like you would do on your phone, and it\u2019s all with TalkBack. What you can also do is make voice commands.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Oh, sweet. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Gotcha.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
That makes it a little easier and fully hands-free.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
And is there a speaker on the glass itself, and- or are you relying on a bluetooth or an earpiece support as well?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
There is a speaker on the glass itself-<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Okay.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
-we do also have bluetooth, so you could put your own earpods in the future, but there is a speaker. And you can, you know, lower the volume-<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Right.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
-and things like that. So, yeah, if you\u2019re somewhere that you don\u2019t want everyone to hear, just lower the volume.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Wow, this has all the- they\u2019re checking off all the boxes there, Scott.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yep, it certainly is.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Is there anything that you haven\u2019t heard that you\u2019re like, \u201cI need this on the Envision glasses,\u201d just please let me know! <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Oh, I have a laundry list of stuff, you know, the machine learning aspect is the most- I call it the last 10 yards problem, you know, you take your Uber to your hotel or your restaurant, and what I\u2019m waiting for is to see some machine learning AI where I can scan around and say \u201cDoor at 2:00,\u201d because you\u2019re looking for the door to get into the place that you just got dropped off at, or, you know, elevator, or stairs, you know, the common navigational things. I want to see some MLs for that dropped in so we can get distance and bearing types of technologies, you know, just by pointing around. That\u2019s what I\u2019m waiting for, and I\u2019m starting to see some of that, and- I don\u2019t know, can you talk about any, like, future ideas that you guys have been thinking about for the app or is that confidential at this point?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A little bit! A little bit, so we\u2019re definitely thinking about these types of things, yeah, it would really make life so much easier. It\u2019s not in the nearby future, since first, you know, basis of the glasses and a couple of features that we\u2019re working on for the apps, but this is definitely something that is in the back of our heads, yeah, that would be amazing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah. Do you want to describe a little bit about your scene recognition software and what types of descriptions you\u2019ll get out of that, because I think it\u2019s been, I\u2019m not sure everyone\u2019s- I hope everyone\u2019s familiar with their phone app by now, if they\u2019re not it would be nice to hear the types of things you can see in the scene, and maybe, you know, what directions you\u2019re going with your technology in that regard?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, definitely, so what we have now is a scene description where you hear whatever you\u2019re seeing from people sitting in a room or a lot of buildings, things like that. What you can also recognize is people that you taught Envision to remember, so if you scan Envision around and you would come across me, it would tell you \u201cThat\u2019s Ilse.\u201d So it basically detects every single object right now, but where we\u2019re going in the future is you can also teach Envision objects. So right now it only teaches faces and it recognizes a lot, it would be very interesting because, you know, one chair is not the same as the chair next door, so it would be interesting to teach Envision your own products, your own stuff in your house and everything, so that\u2019s something that\u2019s coming in the future.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Very cool, very cool. Is there one feature that you are most proud of, that you feel like really sets this app apart from everyone else at this point?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
I feel that we have so many different languages. We have also the non-Latin based languages\u2014most people use the app for reading, because it\u2019s very accurate, and I\u2019m just happy that we can reach so many people in so many different countries with this, and help them. That\u2019s what we\u2019re super proud of. In terms of, you know, what the company is doing it\u2019s really the glasses, we\u2019re the first, we\u2019re really excited, just came on as a partner on the Google website which is like \u201cAh, that\u2019s nice!\u201d You know, it\u2019s- yeah, we\u2019re getting there, it\u2019s just very, very interesting to be in the assistive tech in these times with AI, with these amazing products that a couple of years ago it looks so futuristic, but now we can really see it help people a lot and I think that\u2019s something to be proud of.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
It certainly is.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Absolutely, absolutely. I\u2019m just excited because Envision AI, you guys came out with it, and seeing AI was out there, but, you know, when you talk about the accuracy of the OCR that\u2019s what sold me on it, you know, I like accuracy, I\u2019m a guy that likes to get things done, I just want it to work and I don\u2019t want to be amazed by it, I just need the information that I\u2019m going for, so that\u2019s why I\u2019m with Envision AI on that note. When I heard you guys were taking it to a whole nother level with the glass, the Envision glass, I was like \u201cWow, this is really cool,\u201d to see that, you know, Google partnership and everything like that, it\u2019s like this is something to watch or something to get involved in and get invested in too. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, thank you for that. It\u2019s really something new, it\u2019s very exciting. And we just hope we can help as many people as possible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mm-hm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Make lives easier.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah. Do you guys did or do a thing for Accessibility Day where you had the community come on and that was pretty good, I enjoyed that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, thank you. It was super interesting to talk to all these innovators in the field and learn from that and learn how they think about accessibility. Yeah, and we also had our ambassadors on, who are, you know, invested in the company and in the community from another side, but, yeah, it was really nice to get these people together and talk about what really matters.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Great. Scott, you got any more questions?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Sure, I\u2019ve got tons. The hardware that you\u2019re using\u2014how do you see that holding up in the future? You know, we\u2019re always updating our phones every couple of years, often enough, but do you think the current Google Glass is going to be ready to support the new features that you\u2019re willing to add for the foreseeable future or have you thought about an upgrade program or any hardware limitations on the glass as it is now?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Right now no hardware limitations, that\u2019s also why we chose these glasses.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, they really can do everything we wanted, which is the app and many more things.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mm-hm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
And of course, in terms of updates and things we will still be Envision, like we are on the app, we have updates as much as we can, yeah, we will stay on it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
And with any wearable, my question is always let\u2019s talk about battery life. How long can we expect to be using this at a time and what\u2019s the recharge system like? <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
That is actually a very important one. The battery lasts between six and eight hours\u2014which is pretty long, it\u2019s like a workday.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
And they charge with fast charge, like 50% is done in half an hour, and if you want to go up to 100%-<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Oh, wow.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
-it will take about two hours to charge. Yeah, the battery life is really pretty long. Of courses, if you are, you know, face calling someone the entire day it will drain a little faster.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mm-hm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
But yeah, normal use, like if you\u2019re at work or whatever you\u2019re doing as a student or reading books or whatnot, then yeah, six to eight hours. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
And is it possible, if you wanted to have an external battery pack, to actually, you know, plug it in with a tether while you\u2019re wearing it, or does that not work?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
That is actually possible, yes, definitely.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Okay. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Wow. Don\u2019t stop now, Scott, you\u2019re doing good.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
I just want to keep talking about the future, the future and all these new futures, but, yeah. What you have now is pretty remarkable as it is, and I think if you wanted to sum it up, you basically see it as a reading device first and these other features are sort of evolving and based on feedback from your users, that\u2019s what it sounds like.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yes, definitely, and what we always make sure is that, you know, our software is device agnostic, so if there is any other type of hardware that does- is good enough-<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Right.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
-for what we need and what our users need then we\u2019re always happy to test it out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Very cool, very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
That\u2019s great.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, that was like a sneak peak of the future.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, because I think there\u2019s a definite advantage to have, sort of the head-mounted camera type of technology because it\u2019s always- it tracks where you\u2019re looking and it always gives you a reference that\u2019s accurate whereas if you\u2019re holding your phone, you know, a slight five degree angle can really throw you off, but if it\u2019s mounted on your head you\u2019re going to be- you\u2019re going to have very accurate information of where you\u2019re looking at and get a sense of your surroundings.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mm-hm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
I always appreciate those types of things, but it\u2019s- there aren\u2019t a lot of options like that, so it\u2019s nice to see you guys do it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
There\u2019s some things that you can build yourself, or buy that you can use with your phone, but today we did another round of testing and it\u2019s very interesting to see that people just automatically turn the right way to point to a piece of paper. It just goes naturally, and it\u2019s really nice, it just makes everything a lot faster.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Oh, plus, being hands-free, I mean, that\u2019s totally everything-<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
It\u2019s huge.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
-some people, yeah, you have a cane, you have a dog, you have a soda, a beverage, a coffee-<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
-yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, we\u2019re just about always down one arm, you know, you do everything one-armed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
And then you want to do something, you don\u2019t want to have to be gesturing, or, you know, moving or all that stuff, you just want to, like you said, voice commands, bingo, there you go.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Let me jump on voice commands, so what is the trigger word or is it easy to activate, is it, you know, touch to activate, or is it, you know, always listening, how- that\u2019s a good question to ask, I guess, as well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
It\u2019s going to be easy to activate. So, we\u2019re still building this so we haven\u2019t made the commands yet, but that\u2019s also something that we\u2019re working on with testing and everything right now to see what would the best way to activate be for you guys.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\u201cHey, Ilse.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
There you go!<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
I don\u2019t know, but that would be interesting!<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No bias there at all. \u201cHey, Ilse.\u201d Hey, that works! Because there\u2019s a lot of Ilses in the world out there that would like that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah!<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
I think there\u2019s lots in the Netherlands, I bet. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Maybe I should, you know, we should make a poll and see what people think.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Well, Scott suggested it, I\u2019ll second it, so there you go.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
That\u2019s my contribution.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Thank you, I appreciate-
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Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
You tell Karthik we said that. How to invoke it, that\u2019s really cool. I like the voice command, I mean, touching is okay, but voice commands, once you\u2019re in a groove is just natural and, you know, like you said, naturally looking at something, it\u2019s just going to keep going smooth. You can even turn the pages and keep on talking to the glasses, you know. That\u2019s cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Wow. To pick up a magazine again. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yes. That\u2019s something, by the way, we\u2019re working on hard right now for the apps as well as the glasses, the column detection.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Oh, yeah!<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
So important, so we\u2019re working on it very hard now because so many requests came in and, yeah, that would be, you know, a magazine, a book, whatnot, that you usually have to, you know, cover half of the book but now you don\u2019t have to do that anymore.
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Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Well, even for students, if they can detect that something\u2019s in the margin, or in the column, you know, that would be kind of like a column, that it would isolate that and read that separately, that\u2019s cool. I\u2019m glad you guys are really looking into all the obstacles that we come across. I mean, OCR seems simple and easy, but there\u2019s so many graphic designers out there that don\u2019t want to just make a page look plain, they fancy it up a little bit, and if you guys can detect all that that\u2019s better for the reader. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
We try, we really try. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Great.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Do you guys do some of your own machine learning models or are you leveraging third party models, or are you doing anything specific for the blind yourself in-house?
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Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A little bit of both. So we have some models that we\u2019re using, and some that we build ourselves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Okay.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
I am not that technical, so-<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Sorry, that\u2019s okay!<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
[unintelligible] that. But yes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Great. Well, it\u2019s 90 degrees here in Minnesota so it\u2019s summertime, so what kind of summer specials have you guys been talking about.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
You know, actually, yesterday I found myself sending out an email saying \u201cGuys, we have a summer sale,\u201d even though it\u2019s raining here. I felt really sad, but we have to, you know, make it feel like summer, so we\u2019re like \u201cSummer sale,\u201d so we have a summer sale for our app which goes up to 50% discount on the annual plan, 20% on lifetime, and 30 on monthly. Glasses prices go on the website right now for 18.99, that\u2019s euros-<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mm-hm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Yeah, so that\u2019s the summer for us!<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
It\u2019s going to be a good summer, all the things that\u2019ll be coming out in the future, I know I just updated- I think yesterday I got an update to the Envision AI app, I was, like, excited, I was like \u201cWow, we\u2019re going to be talking to Ilse tomorrow and I just got the update!\u201d Anything else, Scott?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
I think I\u2019ve covered just about everything I could think of, unless there\u2019s anything else you want to tell us?
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Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Really, I would say go to letsenvision.com\/glasses if you want any more information, and we are always open to any feedback and any questions, whatever you want to know, please just, you know, send us an email, and we\u2019ll be here for you. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Great, we\u2019ll do that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scott:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Can\u2019t ask for anything more than that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No. You\u2019ve always been- always listening to the community. Tell Karthik and Karthik hi, and Ilse, it was really nice to meet you and thank you so much for taking the time to come onto Blind Abilities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ilse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Thank you so much for your time, it was great to be with you both. Thank you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jeff:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Alright.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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